Troop love, get your troop love!!!

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iamahaingttta (250 posts) Mon May-29-06 10:38 AM
Original message
After 3 Memorial Days in Iraq, I no longer "support" the troops.
Shortly after the war in Iraq started, my wife's nephew, a Florida National Guardsman, was shipped off to Baghdad. He didn't particularly want to be there, but he's a young guy and it was an adventure so he didn't complain. His politics (if a twenty-something can truly be said to understand politics) seem to be conservative, and he came back, in 2004, uninjured and upbeat. Mostly he told stories of Hajji and the little kids he played soccer with.

My wife's other nephew, who was regular army, was moved from his deployment in South Korea to Iraq, but he only stayed there for about three months before his discharge. He came back very negative about the whole thing.

At this point, I don't think there are too many kids like those two over there still who joined up to get money for college and to help clean up after hurricanes. I may be wrong. If so, I wish them the best and hope they get home safely. Everyone else I know of in the armed services (not too many people, frankly) joined well after 9/11, and did so knowing full well what they were getting into.

I hope they all die or get maimed.
There. I've said it!

This war (in Iraq - I'm gonna leave Afghanistan out of this rant. For now.) is totally illegal and totally immoral and totally wrong on every level and in my humble and maybe misguided opinion, anyone who joins in voluntarily is a criminal against humanity and deserves the worst and most painful fate a human being can suffer. I'm sorry if anyone reading this has loved ones participating in that carnage, it's nothing personal. I just feel that at this point, it's clear what's happening, and I feel that anyone going into it voluntarily should suffer. And frankly - that goes double for those privatized Blackwater type scumbags, and the private sector "I'm gonna go and make a fortune rebuilding" types. Die, Scum!

Maybe I've picked the wrong day to say this, but the truth is, as "liberal" (or as I prefer to call myself - progressive) as I may be, I am a Patriotic American and what my country is doing in the world right now disgusts me. As my tagline says, "I'm as mad as HELL and I'm not going to take this anymore!" and at this point I'm not afraid to say what I feel. I don't care if Ann Coulter uses this as an example to say "See? Liberals hate America!" I don't hate America, I hate America acting like a murderous tyrant. And it takes actual people to carry out those actions. People who I hope suffer for those actions.

The "War on Terror" is a fear-mongering, money-making scam like the "War on Drugs" was, and it's designed to NEVER actually be "won". Iraq was ALWAYS meant to be the newly-militarized base of operations for the Neo-Con dream of a Greater Israel, and for the oil-company dominated Middle-East. Yes, Saddam was a bad man. Big deal. There are lots of bad men. Let's go and get them, one at a time.

Radical Islam did not have to be dealt with like this. Just because a few people WANTED a war against the U.S. did not mean we had to hand it to them on a silver platter. Look, I got no problem with going out in the world and finding and killing the truly bad people. Really. There are bad people out there. I'm not a child. I understand this. I'm reacting to the fact that we've killed or maimed HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of innocent human beings in the process (including a lot of kids who joined the military to get money for college and to help clean up after hurricanes), and that we've created HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of new enemies as a result. It did not have to be like this. We could have chosen a different path.

It's Memorial Day. Get out there in the sunshine and remember what the United States of America used to be like, when it was a beacon of light shining in the world!

The post has since gone down the skinner (the DU admin) hole, but luckily, our good friends at CU have it screencapped:


The sad part is, this guy is not alone in his feelings.

World Jump Day

All I can say is, I really hope this is just a giant gimmick and these tools aren't really serious.

Memorial Day: More than just a great BBQ

There's nothing wrong with going to the beach, firing up the grill and throwing back a few beers this weekend. Indeed I think everyone should be enjoying themselves to the fullest this weekend. But let's not forgot what it is we are celebrating this weekend. We are honoring those who have served, given and sacrificed for this great country. Memorial day is the one day where our vets are honored the way they should be honored each and every day. To those we are serving and have served, God bless each and every one of you.

Uhm, I don't know, why can't you?

Wow, there are some seriously f***ed up people in this world. Really, dude. I have no idea, so stop it ok? Just stop it, you look silly.

On a side note, how did that search criteria bring up my webpage??

Your kids are being indoctrinated!!

The 9th circuis court recently handed down a ruling allowing prayer in public schools in Kalifornia. Not just prayer, but a whole host of religious activities, including role-playing excercises that include chanting after teacher prompts and proclaiming that there is only one God.

But it's not the Christians that are indoctrinating you my friends. It's that wonder ROP(MA). That's right, we're not talking about Christian prayer, oh no, that's still not allowed.

Read it, and get pissed off (unless your a muslim, then do your happy dance of exploding children):

Education: In our brave new schools, Johnny can't say the pledge, but he can recite the Quran. Yup, the same court that found the phrase "under God" unconstitutional now endorses Islamic catechism in public school.

In a recent federal decision that got surprisingly little press, even from conservative talk radio, California's 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled it's OK to put public-school kids through Muslim role-playing exercises, including:

Reciting aloud Muslim prayers that begin with "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful . . . ."

Memorizing the Muslim profession of faith: "Allah is the only true God and Muhammad is his messenger."

Chanting "Praise be to Allah" in response to teacher prompts.

Professing as "true" the Muslim belief that "The Holy Quran is God's word."

Giving up candy and TV to demonstrate Ramadan, the Muslim holy month of fasting.

Designing prayer rugs, taking an Arabic name and essentially "becoming a Muslim" for two full weeks.

Parents of seventh-graders, who after 9-11 were taught the pro-Islamic lessons as part of California's world history curriculum, sued under the First Amendment ban on religious establishment. They argued, reasonably, that the government was promoting Islam.

But a federal judge appointed by President Clinton told them in so many words to get over it, that the state was merely teaching kids about another "culture."

So the parents appealed. Unfortunately, the most left-wing court in the land got their case. The 9th Circuit, which previously ruled in favor of an atheist who filed suit against the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance, upheld the lower court ruling.

The decision is a major victory for the multiculturalists and Islamic apologists in California and across the country who've never met a culture or religion they didn't like — with the exception of Western civilization and Christianity. They are legally in the clear to indoctrinate kids into the "peaceful" and "tolerant" religion of Islam, while continuing to denigrate Judeo-Christian values.

In the California course on world religions, Christianity is not presented equally. It's covered in just two days and doesn't involve kids in any role-playing activities. But kids do get a good dose of skepticism about the Christian faith, including a biting history of its persecution of other peoples. In contrast, Islam gets a pass from critical review. Even jihad is presented as an "internal personal struggle to do one's best to resist temptation," and not holy war.

The ed consultant's name is Susan L. Douglass. No, she's not a Christian scholar. She's a devout Muslim activist on the Saudi government payroll, according to an investigation by Paul Sperry, author of "Infiltration: How Muslim Spies and Subversives Have Penetrated Washington." He found that for years Douglass taught social studies at the Islamic Saudi Academy just outside Washington, D.C. Her husband still teaches there.

So what? By infiltrating our public school system, the Saudis hope to make Islam more widely accepted while converting impressionable American youth to their radical cause. Recall that John Walker Lindh, the "American Taliban," was a product of the California school system. What's next, field trips to Mecca?

This case is critical not just to our culture but our national security. It should be brought before the Supreme Court, which has outlawed prayer in school. Let's see what it says about practicing Islam in class. It will be a good test for the bench's two new conservative justices.

You know, I've read the book. I know how the story ends. Still doesn't make it any easier to watch.

God (and good) for them I say

Our elected officials can't seem to find a pair of balls to stand up against judicial activism, but a group of highschool seniors can:

Despite ruling, prayer recited at graduation

May 20, 2006

RUSSELL SPRINGS, Ky. – A federal judge blocked a southern Kentucky high school yesterday from including prayers in its graduation ceremony, prompting students to begin reciting the Lord's Prayer during the opening remarks.

About 200 students interrupted the principal's comments with the prayer, drawing thunderous applause and a standing ovation from the crowd.
Earlier in the day, a judge banned prayers from the ceremony in response to a lawsuit filed this week by the American Civil Liberties Union. The lawsuit sought a restraining order on behalf of an unidentified student at Russell County High School in Russell Springs, 90 miles south of Louisville.

Later in the ceremony, senior Megan Chapman told the crowd that God had guided her since childhood. She was interrupted repeatedly by cheering as she urged her classmates to trust in God as they go through life.

Superintendent Scott Pierce said he was pleased with the students' response to the ruling.

The U.S. Supreme Court has held that clergy-led prayer in public school graduations and sporting events is prohibited.

I never cease to be amazed at the hardcore secularists in this country. Please, explain to me how one can be offended at something they don't believe in. Should we also be offended by the tooth fairy? Or how about dragons? Those damned hobbits!!! They should be banned I say! The best part is, this wasn't a school led prayer, it was student led and as such is entirely protected by the first amendment. Those jackasses at the ACLU are probably having a fit over this right now. Just take a look at what the tools at DU are saying.

Charlie Brown (1000+ posts) Sat May-20-06 10:56 PM
Response to Original message
4. If a Muslim (or any non-X-tian) had recited their prayer at the ceremony
Edited on Sat May-20-06 10:59 PM by Charlie Brown
they probably would have been lynched, or at the very least "black-listed" by the community.

These moral zealots are hypocrites. They do not want equal rights, they only want privilleges for their particular brand of religion, and the government is the tool they use to sock it on everyone. The ACLU is dead right, and I hope they file two new suits (one against the superintendent for "praising" the sectarian prayers, and one against the high-school for not holding the students accountable).

beam me up scottie (1000+ posts) Sat May-20-06 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #8
11. One kid dared to dissent.
Edited on Sat May-20-06 11:18 PM by beam me up scottie
One.

Against all of the other students.


Imagine how he must feel.


I guess nobody else will ever make that mistake again.

enlightenment (822 posts) Sat May-20-06 11:32 PM
Response to Reply #11
18. And I sincerely hope he or she can get out of that
backward little burg very soon.

niyad (1000+ posts) Sat May-20-06 11:35 PM
Response to Original message
21. to the people who are defending these rude, obnoxious little christo-
zealots, what part of this did you not comprehend:


RUSSELL SPRINGS, Ky. – A federal judge blocked a southern Kentucky high school yesterday from including prayers in its graduation ceremony, ***************prompting students to begin reciting the Lord's Prayer during the opening remarks. About 200 students interrupted the principal's comments with the prayer,******** drawing thunderous applause and a standing ovation from the crowd

they interupted the speaker, displaying a complete lack of manners, and there is NO defense for that. I am sick and tired of little xian zealots thinking they have a "god-given right" to FORCE their damned prayers on those who are not gawd-smacked.

reprobate (1000+ posts) Sun May-21-06 01:32 PM
Response to Original message
46. Their own holy book tells them not to prey in public.

Misspelling intentional. They are so religious that they haven't read their own holy book?

You know. The think about going into your closet to pray. Hiding your light under a basket. Praying in public an act of the hypocrit.

Or is it that they only believe that those PARTS of it they agree with are the word of god?

I wish some of those myth believers would tell this non believer just why hypocrisy and religion seem to be so intertwined. And it's particularly egregious in the big three western monotheistic myths.

And don't jump on my use of the word myth. Religion is defined as myth: "A traditional, typically ancient story dealing with supernatural beings, ancestors, or heroes that serves as a fundamental type in the worldview of a people, as by explaining aspects of the natural world or delineating the psychology, customs, or ideals of society"

http://www.tfd.com/myth

Plenty more there, but I'm sick of looking at it. Liberal tolerance in action, eh?

Dude!! WTF are you??

Seriously dude, you need to stop coming to my webpage. I don't know what you're looking for, and frankly..I don't want to. But you're not gonna find it here, you sick ass freak.

You have clicked on my page from that search nine times, and the result hasn't changed. Get over it dood.

My son the genius

This in a letter from my son's elementary school: (I would just post the letter itself but my scanner's mucked up)

Richard has taken A STAR Math computer-adaptive math test. This report summarizes your child's scores on the test. As with any test, many factors can affect a studen'ts scores. It is important to understand that these test scores provide only one picture of how your child is doing in school.

National Norm Scores:

Grade Equivalent(GE): 12.9+

Grade Eqvuivalent scores range from 0.0 to 12.9=. A GE scro shows how your child's test performance compares with that of other students nationally. Based on the national norms, Richard's math skills are at a level equal to that of a typical post-high school student.
Percentile Rank(PR): 99

The percentile Rank score compares your child's test performance with that of other students nationally in the same grade. With a PR of 99, Richard's math skills are higher than 99% of students nationally in the same grade. this score is above average. The PR Range indicates that, if this student had taken the STAR Math test numerous times, most of his scores would likely have fallen between 97 and 99.

At this stage3, he needs to work with aglebra concepts such as powers and roots, negative numbers, factorization, and scientific notation and be provided with opportunities to challenge math skills.

Richard is in the fourth grade.

**Edit on 5/20 @11:20pm. It has been pointed out to me that I screwed up. I originally posted that my son scored on the Grade Eqvuivalent scale a 12.9 out of a possible 19.9. That was incorrect. He scored a 12.9 out of a possible 12.9, meaning he scored the highest possible score. It has since been fixed and the corrected area bolded***

Bush was right

Heh, I don't agree with Bush on a lot of things, but I really love pissing off democrats. And this video does just that. Something tells me you won't see these guys on MTV anytime soon though.

Bush was right

Bullshit

From the Penn and Teller website

9/11 Conspiracy theorists
Democrats and Zombies
Abslolutely beatiful!!

True Americans

Dear Mr. President,

I implore to take a look at these fine individuals. You could learn something from them, they are true patriots.

Following a week of tough talk, a 250-member sheriff's posse charged with finding and arresting illegal immigrants made just one arrest in its inaugural desert search early Thursday morning.


The posse, made up of existing sheriff's deputies and unpaid, trained volunteers, on Wednesday night launched night patrols in desert areas and major roadways southwest of Phoenix.

They're looking for illegal immigrants to arrest under a state smuggling law that allows local law enforcement to arrest and charge suspected human and drug smugglers with a state-level felony. Smuggling already was a federal felony.

Again, just for those who don't already know. My plan for controlling the border. A 50ft high double wall fence, running the entire length of the border. Only one entrance between U.S. and Mexico. Space the walls 100ft apart, with razor wire at the top. Put gaurd towers every mile or so. Arm each guard tower with at least two men, and arm them with a .50cal maching gun and a high powered long range sniper rifle. In between the two walls, creat a "no man's land", riddled with land mines. Don't like it? Move to fucking Canada.

Fun from the DUmp

I tell ya, I think some people were held underwater by their parents as children. How else can one explain this?

noahmijo (1000+ posts) Wed May-03-06 11:23 PM
Original message
So today I snapped at an elderly man pretty harshly concerning his sticker
bumpersticker wouldn't fit but anyways you know what I mean.

Yea this 70 or 80 something year old man was coming out of his nice shiny Buick which had a sticker on it that said "I'd rather hunt with Dick Cheney than Ride with Ted Kennedy" something like that.


So while walking by I said "Well not me, I know how to swim but I haven't learned how to dodge quail load yet when its being discharged by some idiot who thinks I'm a fucking bird"

He gave me this look as if I, a child in his eyes shouldn't be speaking to him like that.

Which is why I said right then" and furthermore I really wish you old fuckers would start fighting the wars you start instead of sending kids my age off to do the fighting and dying for you. Obviously no one robbed you of a healthy childhood, but you seem okay with robbing 20 somethings of theirs today."


Nope sorry ZERO that is ZERO respect for any "elder" that supports the death and destruction of babies, children, ANYONE who was robbed of what these aging bastards take for granted.

To be fair, some of the members of DU do take him to task for this, but most of the responses are bloviated pats on the back. Yay, you screamed at an old man over a fucking bumper sticker!! Way to go dickhead.

Some of the responses:

dotcosm (1000+ posts) Wed May-03-06 11:26 PM
Response to Original message
2. oh SNAP!
Edited on Wed May-03-06 11:27 PM by dotcosm
Bravo! you tell that mf'er. Age is no excuse!

(or you could have just said "there's no fool like an old fool" -- but what you said was good

Pierre Trudeau (122 posts) Thu May-04-06 07:37 AM
Response to Reply #41
183. you Americans are confused about "respect"

I've come to the conclusion that those of you who insist on treating opponents with "respect" will soon be drowned in a sea of jackboots.

These folks aren't just "people with different political viewpoints", they are FASCISTS.They DON'T THINK. They cannot be reasoned with. Their "viewpoints" don't need to be "respected", no matter what age they are.

The only way to deal with them is to show contempt, not respect, and it's also important to publically humiliate them.
Don't worry about "hurting their feelings", because they certainly don't give a shit about yours. Make sure that everyone in the immediate vicinity hears what a fool they are. Show NO mercy.

By being "respectful" to people who don't deserve respect, the language and mentality of fascism gradually becomes normalized in everyday discourse. Before you know it, fascistic behaviour is fully accepted, and it's more difficult to oppose it because earlier, you showed "respect" for these "different political viewpoints".

Do you think the Nazis would ever have risen to power if everytime they tried to walk down the street, ordinary germans would routinely punch them in the face and humiliate them??

Hehe, I'm a fascist...now that right there is funny.

treestar (200 posts) Thu May-04-06 12:02 PM
Response to Reply #183
273. Great post! I've been hearing about how we should take the
high road for 30 years. 30 years of respect and politeness and we are just that much farther to the right.

Damn right THEY won't be nice. They deserve every bit of it.

baby_mouse (1000+ posts) Thu May-04-06 01:33 PM
Response to Reply #183
327. Good... ;-)

This is good...

TankLV (1000+ posts) Thu May-04-06 01:15 AM
Response to Reply #48
78. NO! How dare someone not support the TRUTH and GOODNESS!
and what is CORRECT and DECENT!

THESE PEOPLE ARE RAPING US ALL and you would have us think theirs it a valid "viewpoint"!

CLUE: IT IS NOT IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM AN EQUALLY "VALID" VIEWPOINT!

Heh, my viewpoint is not valid, newsflash for you jackass, my viewpoint won in '04.

There's more there, but it would take up the whole front page. Just go read for yourself. Oh, and kudos to DU poster Yupster for having some good sense and a few morals. It was a bumper sticker for Chrissake...

AAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

What the fu** is this horsesh**!!?? Life in prison?? What bullshit!!! This POS from the ROP(MA) needs to be tortured, hung until dead and left for the birds to pic at!! His arrival in Hell can not come fast enough for me!! Unfucking believable!!

Convicted Al Qaeda conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui was sentenced to life in prison without possibility of parole on Wednesday for his role in the Sept. 11 attacks.

Reading the jurors' verdict outside the Alexandria court house, Edward Adams, the court's public information officer, said the verdict only indicated that the jurors were "not unanimous in favor of a sentence of death."

The jurors had deliberated over Moussaoui's fate for seven days, having previously decided that Moussaoui's role in the worst terrorist attacks on U.S. soil made him eligible for the death penalty, despite not having played a direct role in the plot. Prosecutors had argued that had Moussaoui divulged to authorities what he knew of the plot, the attacks could have been prevented.

You know what the worst part is? In about 10-15 years some human rights group, such as the ACLU or International ANSWER is going to be working for this POS's release.

WTF??

Dood, seriously...what in the blue hell were you trying to find??

Atlas Shrugged to hit big screen?

From Variety Online:

Ayn Rand's most ambitious novel may finally be brought to the bigscreen after years of false starts.
Lionsgate has picked up worldwide distribution rights to "Atlas Shrugged" from Howard and Karen Baldwin ("Ray"), who will produce with John Aglialoro.

As for stars, book provides an ideal role for an actress in lead character Dagny Taggart, so it's not a stretch to assume Rand enthusiast Angelina Jolie's name has been brought up. Brad Pitt, also a fan, is rumored to be among the names suggested for lead male character John Galt.

Does this strike anyone else as a bit ironic? To me it's like getting Rush Limbaugh to play the hero in a Michael Moore movie.